Not so obvious. Yeah, did OEM bushings later, actually. I am a huge advocate of OEM parts for stuff like this, aftermarket has its place, but to save 40$ Vs. your safety? The subaru oem ball joint is a better ball joint in my opinion. I'm trying to shop around for more budget friendly suspension parts (arms, … To be fair, you used one of the cheap Jeep's as an example. Again, simple: the brand’s a direct OEM replacement across all Jeep generations. If you still feel it is necessary to bump this thread, you have the permission to do so. I've seen moog a lot and from other forums a lot of people seem to use them. It would probably be that sweet blue, right? Have read lots of advice to use only OEM bushings on suspension. By the end of the comparison, you’ll be able to make an informed choice. Sooooo I have an oddball question for y'all. AC Delco: $76. Here are a few notes on both brands' suspension parts, including ACDelco Professional vs Advantage, and MOOG's famous Problem Solver. The sway nar parts were toast in 5 years (OEM lasted 12) and the tie rod ends were clearly inferior to OEM. I agree that Moog can contact me by phone* You must agree to allow Moog to contact you by phone. With replacement parts you have to consider the OEM. #2 03-27-2017, 07:59 PM Diseasel300. 94 (moog) vs 42 (oem). The sway nar parts were toast in 5 years (OEM lasted 12) and the tie rod ends were clearly inferior to OEM. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Mevotech Supreme is good stuff, much better than OEM. There is confusion about choosing an OEM or aftermarket parts. My Build Thread My LED Conversions. Your Projects: The Least Expensive Factory Five Cobra? Use of CAD and factory testing such as the fitness, finish, along with performance monitoring like the durability to endure the weight is what thrives them to produce world-class products like the ball joints. Moog values your privacy, therefore, it will only collect the minimum amount of personal data needed to achieve the result that you request and to which you affirmatively consent. I'm just curious if the cost of OEM is warranted vs the aftermarket options. Jul 9, 2012 #2. I am on the Tacoma forum, and many LBJ that people used from aftermarket has failed. Thank you. May 18, 2015 at 7:40 AM #1. libertybob Full Access Member. Moog vs. NAPA vs. OEM. Clunking went away and came back so I dk wtf the issue is now. Learn more about Moog’s Medical OEM offerings. Quote; Link to post Share on other sites. Another point is that not everything is for everyone—preferences matter. Consumers want an 18$ ball joint so the aftermarket builds one that can be sold at 18$ and still turn a profit. My question is: is it worth spending much more on the OE parts over NAPA or Rock Auto? Premier Member. The Moog Problem solvers are the quality ones. If this is true, does that mean that moog is better? The culprit is the crimp at the top of the ball joint (as installed) which maintains tension on the ball - it can fail, leading to a loss of tension in the ball joint or a complete failure. 66 Posts . Uhg, uhg. Click to expand... OE parts are the only thing I'll use for stuff like LCA's. I'll offer the OEM ball joints on Jeep Patriots which are utter garbage. The old ball joints seized and I had new ones put in at the dealership, but they used Moog, not Mopar. So, how does Moog … I just changed mine. You can always find out who made the parts for the manufacturer and buy them direct. Decided to go slow and do them part by part, replacing them with oem mopar parts. Sway bar links and bushings I've already bought oem. On my past Subaru, I used Moog sway bar end links, sway bar bushings, and tie rod end. I’ve tried and tested both before compiling this guide. Duralast vs Moog? Joined: Jul 11, 2009 Location: Tyler, Texas. So, how does Moog … Posts: 150 Likes Received: 131 Joined: Jun 23, 2017 Name: Matt "I can take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will, I got spare time." Especially if it’s a Mevotech vs Moog issue. The old ball joints seized and I had new ones put in at the dealership, but they used Moog, not Mopar. Your balljoints suck. The design also allows it to flush contaminants that would otherwise cause corrosion and shorten the lifespan of the part. I've had a few cheap ones which developed up to 0.250" of slop when that crimp failed. Moog; One of the reasons why Moog features as one of the best ball joint brands is its design. They measure the elasticity of the joints, spray test, and even the stud pulling. Id really recommend OEM, I had to replace moogs every 40k, oems lasted 80k till I sold it. Both of the brands have produced consumer-friendly great products. Read Next: Moog Ball Joints vs OEM. I was wondering if any of y'all had any good experiences using moog or if you know where I can find the mopar parts for a good deal. o5vkK8OeWeMWeq1qQrN4IBkEuJgHjTmdIWBJryuGvIMkmgbXXGfWTvE5G2oNSc9X. M1Gunner likes this. My steering before this was perfect - nice and tight and she turned when and where I wanted her to. After 16 years in both aftermarket and OEM parts, I can say this is sometimes true. So the Motorcraft oem tierod end seems thinner than the more expensive moog variation ($20 vs $60). I have faith in Moog and their years of experience. Not always a hard and fast rule here. Toyota parts are not available until next Tuesday at the earliest. 94 (moog) vs 42 (oem). I am replacing my lower control arms this weekeNd. After the switch I noticed that Moog ball joints have a loose feel any time you move the steering wheel. I used moog endlinks on front (replaced the weak plastic cup design) when both OEM links broke around 65k and the moogs have been solid. Have read lots of advice to use only OEM bushings on suspension. OEM. Beck/Arnley: $109. I’ll review the products in detail, discuss their features, pros, and cons. Another decent option in … | Garage Rescue Miata, Scoring a Deal on a Used, Legal Race Engine | Project Vintage Race Mustang, Robb Holland Helps You Tackle the World´s Greatest Race Tracks—Virtually | Coming Soon To an Issue Near You, Trial By Wire: Creating You Car's Electrical System From Scratch. If you wouldn't, then dont. I noticed many german made parts for the benz, moog in my opinion is top tier for what we can buy in the usa. How Moog bushings are? Discussion Starter • #1 • Apr 2, 2019. So I've been doing some research and reading up on some threads on quality/reviews on these two brands on our cars. Struts, springs and ball joints were done previously. Thanks!! GM/Ford? In sensors, I have seen issues but especially in cat converters for example, OEM Dealer is the only way to go to avoid issues. The moog were cheaper then the OEM. © 2021 Motorsport Marketing. Technical Advisory Committee Contact Information. I got my Moog Tie Rod ends off Amazon, just because of the free shipping. FWIW, I have one OEM bj leaking after ~80000. If moog or napa built a 4runner, would you buy it? 142 Posts . Moogs are junk, same with most of the other aftermarket options. Don't have any experience on the Napa stuff. The challenge is when you don’t realize that aftermarket suppliers are also more than happy to build a product to a price point. I just don't want to change ride height. My 4Runner needs new front LCA bushings. Since lowering my … I installed the following about 4 months ago: Moog problem solver front upper control arms Mevotech Supreme front Lower control arms spark plugs? Going to do outer tie rod end soon. With a price delta that low, I'd go OEM for sure. Yes and no. Usually MOOG is the go-to part for people who don't want to go for true OEM. Password: This thread is more than 150+ days old. I’ve tried and tested both before compiling this guide. I read it and while I do agree to an extent, talking about Moog was almost like an ad for them. Aftermarket is aftermarket though, so I always go OEM personally. I would love to do my front end in Speedlogix stuff. By the end of the comparison, you’ll be able to make an informed choice. Then I guess you all have your answers lol. After the switch I noticed that Moog ball joints have a loose feel any time you move the steering wheel. Hey all-Steering in the 190 has gotten sloppy. Alternator? MOOG suspension components being a good example, they take for instance a ball joint, reverse engineer the part and and then recreate a replacement part that is of a higher quality. If there's any other brands that are good, I'm open to all suggestions! The amount of hard work they put in every product allows them … Location: Texas Hill Country. Please click the checkbox below and post your reply. BruhBrahBrad Well-Known Member. Then we get into the part that is being replaced. Moog Inc. is a worldwide designer, manufacturer, and integrator of precision control components and systems. On my Toyotas, I usually like OEM. I'm replacing all of my suspension parts on my 06 charger 3.5l since they haven't been done since 06. Find all the MOOG after-market car parts in our wheel bearings and steering and suspension catalogues. Depends on the aftermarket company. Slykin Well-Known Member. Moog is the best quality brand aftermarket bushings AFAIK. How does it compare to uro loerndern and other i see? FWIW, I have one OEM bj leaking after ~80000. Review: Endlinks Comparism: OEM vs Moog vs Racingline User Name: Remember Me? FWD, get OEM axles from the junkyard and re-boot and re-grease them (don't know about older IRS cars). Moog’s high-performance systems control military and commercial aircraft, satellites and space vehicles, launch vehicles, missiles, automated industrial machinery, wind turbines, marine applications, and medical equipment. Long story short- Proforged is probably good quality on most of their parts, but MOOG is reputable. Discussion Starter • #1 • Apr 2, 2019. I might be wrong, but I remember KOYO wheel bearing being OEM for some Nissan and Subaru vehicles. Namhafte Kunden in aller Welt nutzen die robusten, für Traglasten von 1.000 bis 14.500 kg geeigneten Bewegungsplattformen. I’ll admit there are product that are harder to find good quality aftermarket replacements. As far as failed parts are concerned, Moog’s problem solver line is a direct result of Moog listening to consumers, researching the problem, and designing solutions to replace OEM parts that have flaws which cause them to fail or wear out prematurely. In an older thread some posted MOOG vs OEM pics and the MOOGs where beefier. Here, in the Mevotech vs. Moog comparison guide, I’ll discuss the wheel bearings and control arm by both brands in detail. MOOG Parts are quality steering and suspension parts with almost 100 years of history. There are some scare stories about various aftermarket ones, and this is a pretty damn important piece. 66 Posts . My Sequoia uses the same LCA setup and parts, and on the Toyota forums it's pretty widely agreed to ONLY use OEM. Domestic alternators seemed to be perfectly fine with whatever junk you threw at it. Messages: 3,789 Likes Received: 11. Any Moog part with an R in it is cheap, so steer clear as mentioned above. 11 Posts . The Mevotech Vs MOOG comparison has lingered for a long time. 66 Posts . Registered User : Join Date: May 2016. Also, should I just get the matching duralast lower control arm and tie rod end for the driver side or will a different brand be fine? OEM suspension parts vs Lemforder vs febi Thread starter Riva811; Start date Jan 2, 2019; Jan 2, 2019 #1 Riva811 Active Member. ", I'm ordering OEM, thanks for spending my money everyone. The two well-known aftermarket brands are Mevotech and MOOG. The Moog LBJ's in this video have less then 200 miles on them, while the OEM LBJ's are brand new. That Right side end is HEAVY! Personally I avoid Moog as they are not what they once were in my experience. Honda/Toyota? For the Nissan Cube — I’d go with Timken out of these three. Members; Ray Franck 2,526 Posted January 17, 2017. The only difference between them was the absence of "TOYOTA" cast into the pump. Spicer vs MOOG – best U Joints: A bit of background info. … Are they much better or are there any benefits to buying them over aftermarkets links like MOOG which are a lot less? But are they the same? probable gonna do the whole front end. In an older thread some posted MOOG vs OEM pics and the MOOGs where beefier. Switching worn sway bar bushings makes a huge difference on noises, definitely go with OEM bushings. Since lowering my … On my past Subaru, I used Moog sway bar end links, sway bar bushings, and tie rod end. ¿Por qué las piezas de repuesto de Moog no duran tanto como las piezas originales?Why Moog car spare parts don't last long as Original parts I’ve always used moog and never had an issue. Moog vs Motorcraft OEM steering parts. OEM Suspension Bushings vs Moog Discussion in 'KJ General Discussion' started by libertybob, May 18, 2015. Moog Suspension Parts was first mentioned on PissedConsumer on May 27, 2016 and since then this brand received 15 reviews.. Moog Suspension Parts ranks 89 of 427 in Auto Parts and Accessories category. Moog vs oem Discussion in 'Engine & Drivetrain' started by Peezer123, Jul 19, 2017. I actually bought one of the aftermarket brands and installed them, and after all the reading I did, I got pretty sketched out and actually took them out and bought the more expensive OEM ones. MOOG replacements are better, plus come with grease fittings. What I can say is that after 10 years with Acura, the cars with 250k miles on the odo weren't usually maintained at Joe Blow's shop down the street with Autozone parts. Prices per arm: OEM: $210. 76 Posts . 1 2. thatsnowinnebago SuperDork 1/9/19 12:42 p.m. Hi all, My 4Runner needs new front LCA bushings. The overall rating of the company is 1.8 and consumers are mostly dissatisfied.. NAPA: $157. Just to be clear, I'm asking about control arms w/ bushings, not ball joints. They were installed per FSM within the last two weeks. Moog Vs. OEM Balljoint with pics Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Slykin, Jul 9, 2012. I'm trying to have my car last me another 4 years! Save Share. Like so many things in life many parts are get what you pay for. You can pretty much find better stuff at walmart. What Does the Future of Professional Motorsports Look Like? Do you think components like ball joints, bushings, brake parts ..... are made by GM or Ford. The moog were cheaper then the OEM. The subaru oem ball joint is a better ball joint in my opinion. Best way to decide is research the forums and see what kind of luck others are having. My experience has been that if you're talking about a premium Japanese manufacturer, then the quality of eom parts vastly surpasses that of the usdm aftermarket replacement parts. Get award-winning medical OEM solutions with innovative technology and reliable design. Since lowering my car with the eibach pro kit, i believe it ended up exposing failing parts that ended up forcing me to replace sooner than expected. So, first, let’s clarify a few things. Discussion Starter • #1 • Nov 4, 2018. Mevotech Supreme is good stuff, much better than OEM. I'm only saying SPECIFICALLY for the lower balljoints for Toyota trucks, almost everything I've read is adamant that OEM is the only reliable option. 11 Posts . I installed the following about 4 months ago: Moog problem solver front upper control arms Mevotech Supreme front Lower control arms Built to the toughest tolerances and strictest quality, MOOG® universal joints meet OEM standards and provide unmatched performance and reliability. If you replied that you would by a car made by moog or napa, then by all means, buy their parts and put them on your rig. My steering before this was perfect - nice and tight and she turned when and where I wanted her to. OEM for sure. Moog used to make fantastic parts, but the last 10 years or so they have been outsourcing more of their work to foreign countries and their quality has tanked. Buy one from a reputable company and you’ll have years of use out of the part. Their stuff may have been good 20 years ago but is cheap now. I've talked to one other Tundra owner running these Moog arms with the Moog bj's, and he's of the opinion they are better than OEM. I don't trust moog anymore. and it would have cost a fortune from RockAuto. So I have always used moog suspension parts. Have yall had better luck with the more expensive upgrades or do the stock replacements do well. May 18, 2015 at 7:40 AM #1. libertybob Full Access Member. Don't cheap out. I’ll review the products in detail, discuss their features, pros, and cons. Recent recommendations regarding this business are as follows: "steer away from moog, go factory … Messages: 207 Likes Received: 2 Joined: Jan 31, 2015 Location: Lilburn. dre5491, Sep 3, 2019 #8. jetfishn, TurbulentLamp [OP] and CS_AR like this. Also those who have installed the MOOGs where there any fitment issues or did they go in like OEMs? Their stuff may have been good 20 years ago but is cheap now. It was garbage before they even built the parts. The OEM link kits are well over $100 for just one link kit. Moog is definitely not what it once was. However in my experiences there are some aftermarket companies that take OEM parts to the next level of quality. It give the steering wheel a stiffer feeling then the Moog. The Moog Problem solvers are the quality ones. Not always usa made, but top quality. OEM Suspension Bushings vs Moog Discussion in 'KJ General Discussion' started by libertybob, May 18, 2015. Last edited: Jul 20, 2017. YMMV. I know i can't go wrong with the oem parts but not everyone can ball out lol. JavaScript is disabled. My issue is that these mopar parts individually are pretty expensive! Find the right steering or suspension parts here. They design it, put sub assemblies and parts out to tender, then assemble into a vehicle. Forged steel Moog vs aluminum Beck/Arnley? But biggest noise reducer was new bushings. 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